Illegal configuration .

[AR15barrels]

I can see two sides of it.

First, is that people are often mistaken when they think something is illegally configured or they just dont know the law well enough.

Second, if you mean well and you are 100% sure something could get somebody in trouble then why not try to help them? I would want somebody to let me know if there was something I was doing that could get me in trouble so I could stop doing it and fix it.

A recent example is a guy came up to me when I was shooting a featureless AR and said I couldnt have a flashhider. But I had a muzzle brake with a rather large chamber. It was very obviously a brake and could never be mistaken for a flashhider. He didnt know what the difference was. Turns out he thought all muzzle devices were just "flashhiders". He was completely ignorant of what a flashhider is.

I had to stop shooting my RAW's at public ranges due to all the karens and kens telling me they were illegal for all manner of reasons.
Of course my RAW's are exempt of all that.

 

[AR15barrels]

I have not read anywhere in the letter of the law or PDF’s that states a stock needs to be specifically pinned in order to be considered fixed; yet. Am I missing something?

Folding and collapsing stocks are AW features and simply can not be used on a featureless build.
Fixed is not required.
A fixed stock is a collapsing or folding stock that has been modified to NOT collapse or fold.
You won't see law stating specifically HOW the fixing has to be done.
I fixed a SCAR stock the other day by adding a screw to the adjustment mechanism so that you have to disassemble the stock to change it's length.
This disassembly can not be done without the use of tools.
Many methods are acceptable as long as you can not collapse or fold the stock with your hands.
A non-adjustable stock like an A2 is neither collapsible or folding so it is certainly allowed.
If you can collapse or fold the stock to make it longer or shorter and the gun can be fired in the shortened condition, it's collapsible or folding PERIOD.

 

[Shredla]

Yes

 

[Hit Factor]

So since id advise someone there pistol is configured illegally you would like to avoid ranges i shoot at?

Yes. No one likes hall monitors — especially those with an “If they get upset then that's on them” attitude. Let the RSOs deal with it if it’s really an issue. People are not as ignorant as you seem to think they are, and they don’t need self-appointed legal experts with a nanny complex taking it upon themselves to “educate” them. You are free to configure your own guns however you want, but as far as anyone else is concerned, do us all a favor and mind your own business.

 

[70blazer]

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Yes. No one likes hall monitors — especially those with an “If they get upset then that's on them” attitude. Let the RSOs deal with it if it’s really an issue. People are not as ignorant as you seem to think they are, and they don’t need self-appointed legal experts with a nanny complex taking it upon themselves to “educate” them. You are free to configure your own guns however you want, but as far as anyone else is concerned, do us all a favor and mind your own business.

Not a hall monitor, ATF walks around those shows every day looking to arrest people. Id rather let someone know then watch them get arrested. there are no RSOs at Texas Gun Shows you should go back and read my original post or maybe mind your own business

 

[Shredla]

I think the overwhelming consensus on the request for opinions/advice has overwhelmingly been "Dont be that guy".
Now if you choose to heed that advice, much like the owners of firearms choosing outfit their firearms... it's up to you, you're an adult.

 

[ikeo1]

I think the overwhelming consensus on the request for opinions/advice has overwhelmingly been "Dont be that guy".
Now if you choose to heed that advice, much like the owners of firearms choosing outfit their firearms... it's up to you, you're an adult.

In person, it's whatever at the range (user discretion is advised) but online if its egregious, please help report it so we can remove it. You don't have to if you don't want, but it helps reduce problems here as the site grows.

You have the option if you want free swag for helping us here or not.

 

[H. Bowman]

So since id advise someone there pistol is configured illegally you would like to avoid ranges i shoot at?

Yes. Mind your own goddamned business. One person possessing an object you don't approve of doesn't hurt anyone. Stay out of it and leave them alone. There's a good chance it's perfectly legal and you just don't know any better.

 

[Echidin]

Folding and collapsing stocks are AW features and simply can not be used on a featureless build.
Fixed is not required.
A fixed stock is a collapsing or folding stock that has been modified to NOT collapse or fold.
You won't see law stating specifically HOW the fixing has to be done.
I fixed a SCAR stock the other day by adding a screw to the adjustment mechanism so that you have to disassemble the stock to change it's length.
This disassembly can not be done without the use of tools.
Many methods are acceptable as long as you can not collapse or fold the stock with your hands.
A non-adjustable stock like an A2 is neither collapsible or folding so it is certainly allowed.
If you can collapse or fold the stock to make it longer or shorter and the gun can be fired in the shortened condition, it's collapsible or folding PERIOD.

Would a Magpul PRS 3 stock that has had the internals modified somehow so that the LOP is fixed and the LOP wheel can no longer turn without using an Allen key to disassemble the entire stock and undo the modification keeping the wheel from turning be similar in terms of compliance?

I have one of these stocks sitting around and was wondering how I could put it to use and make it compliant.

 

[70blazer]

Yes. Mind your own goddamned business. One person possessing an object you don't approve of doesn't hurt anyone. Stay out of it and leave them alone. There's a good chance it's perfectly legal and you just don't know any better

I commented because I don’t care how people have their firearms configured, its because I was trying to prevent someone from getting themselves arrested—not because I was interested in playing hall monitor.



For clarity, I was an FFL in Texas and can distinguish between a properly registered SBR and an illegally configured AR pistol. My comment wasn’t speculative or casual.


Lastly, for the sake of precision, it’s goddamn, not goddamned.

 

[Hit Factor]

Lastly, for the sake of precision, it’s goddamn, not goddamned.

Proof that self-appointed “experts” of anything — guns and grammar included — often don’t know what the hell they’re talking about . . .

 

[70blazer]

Proof that self-appointed “experts” of anything — guns and grammar included — often don’t know what the hell they’re talking about . . .
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Thanks I knew you would blow a gasket over that

 

[Shredla]

Now now ladies.....

 

[2muchsoysauce4allthisrice]

Yeh, cool it, for a bit prease…..

 

[AR15barrels]

Would a Magpul PRS 3 stock that has had the internals modified somehow so that the LOP is fixed and the LOP wheel can no longer turn without using an Allen key to disassemble the entire stock and undo the modification keeping the wheel from turning be similar in terms of compliance?

I have one of these stocks sitting around and was wondering how I could put it to use and make it compliant.

Yes.
If you have to disassemble and reassemble the stock with tools to change it's length, it's not going to meet the definition of a collapsible stock.

 

[AR15barrels]

Now now ladies.....

Someone please mention hitler already.

Godwin's law - Wikipedia

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[ZeroFoxGiven]

Someone please mention hitler already.

Godwin's law - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That was so 2025.

 

[HarleyLowRiderST]

I would never try to point out any firearm that is (a) illegal, or (b) not configured correctly, unless I was specifically asked. It’s like those “you are becoming your parents” commercials.

“Hey buddy your AR 15 is not exactly legal. Also your stance is all wrong, not to mention your grip. Shallow breath and hold. Here let me show you” lol

Now I have pointed out to ROs people being stupid or dangerous at the range. To me that is not a Karen/Ken/Snitch, since it’s a safety issue. Come to think of it, I’m not sure I have ever actually spoken to anyone near me at the range.

 

[H. Bowman]

I commented because I don’t care how people have their firearms configured, its because I was trying to prevent someone from getting themselves arrested—not because I was interested in playing hall monitor.



For clarity, I was an FFL in Texas and can distinguish between a properly registered SBR and an illegally configured AR pistol. My comment wasn’t speculative or casual.


Lastly, for the sake of precision, it’s goddamn, not goddamned.

And yet you still wouldn't have any clue. If you came whining to me because I was shooting my registered SP1 with detachable 30 round mags, flash hider, and pistol grip, and then continued to complain to me because I was shooting my also registered Browning 1919 and had it on a tripod next to my ALSO properly papered Serbu super shorty, I'd laugh in your face and offend you with the things I'd say while scoffing.

Hell, there's even quite a few private people in California who lawfully own, possess, and use suppressors. Are you going to confront them about their tax situation also? It's none of your business if the items are not being used in a malicious way. Just go about your day, it doesn't concern you.

 

[H. Bowman]

I would never try to point out any firearm that is (a) illegal, or (b) not configured correctly, unless I was specifically asked. It’s like those “you are becoming your parents” commercials.

“Hey buddy your AR 15 is not exactly legal. Also your stance is all wrong, not to mention your grip. Shallow breath and hold. Here let me show you” lol

Now I have pointed out to ROs people being stupid or dangerous at the range. To me that is not a Karen/Ken/Snitch, since it’s a safety issue. Come to think of it, I’m not sure I have ever actually spoken to anyone near me at the range.

I love the uninvited instructionals from someone who isn't shooting half as well as I am. And yes, calling out unsafe behavior IS important and should be done because that DOES have a negative impact on other people.